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  • #162047
    Ying
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    Not a problem Jax :) I’ll do so now. :)

    #162048
    Ying
    Participant

    Just after I finished posting my last response to this thread, which was about 30 seconds or so ago, I experienced a very deep peace and stillness, my mind when quiet and when I looked at the things around me they seemed, well, irallevent compared to the stillness I could feel within. I am still in this state now, at a relative level anyway :)

    #162277
    Ying
    Participant

    HmmHmm, I haven’t been in here a while now. I actually lost track of my training, hahahahha! Anyways….

    I have found I really dont like sitting meditations. They cause me pain because I have poor posture and a dont like sitting still now. I am trying to find a Tai Chi near me. I would LOVE to do Tai Chi!

    Thats all for now, I gotta get back to stuff in other areas of reality :)

    #162278
    jdmcowan
    Participant

    May I ask how you sit for meditation?  Sometimes small adjustments can help your posture and make sitting easier.  Are you sitting on anything?  Are you crossing your legs?  If so, how are you crossing them?

    #162282
    Jax
    Keymaster

    We address the position issue in the meditation course. Sitting isn’t critical. Lie down – just don’t let yourself fall asleep. lol That’s what I do most of the time. I also sit on a cushion, with my back against something. Or in a chair. Experiment. And see if Jeremy can’t help you as well. ;-)

    #162296
    Beral Khan
    Participant

    Last year, I worked at a place that had a pond in back with a walking trail around it. I would do the breathing and Code meditation as I walked around the trail.  I found it to be both relaxing and meditative.  As sitting causes you discomfort and the idea of movement appeals to you, have you considered going for a walk around your block doing the breathing and meditating on the code with each breath?

    #162376
    Ying
    Participant

    I usually sit, and I try not to have anything support my back so that if I want to meditate sometime later on in life when I go out into the wild, I can meditate freely wherever I am without the need to support my back. While sitting, I usually kneel in Seiza with my feet crossed over each other; or, when not kneeling I cross my legs; or, I sit with my legs crossed and my right foot on my left thigh. My right leg usually becomes numb though, and my back usually tightens and strains either up top or down in my lower back, pending the posture.

    I have to go for now, See you all later.

    #162386
    jdmcowan
    Participant

    The numbness is just something you have to get used to.  Over time you will be able to sit longer and longer.  The back strain is an indication that your posture is not good.  One of the most common problems for people doing sitting meditation is their hip position.  We tend to sit with our feet under our knees because it is easier, but having your knees raised above your hips rotates your hips and puts a lot of strain on your back.

    Seiza automatically puts your knees below your hips, but puts a lot of strain on your knees.  Many people that are still getting their knees used to seiza lean forward to take the pressure off their knees and feet, but leaning forward puts strain on the back.

    There’s a reason that full lotus (each foot on top of the opposite knee) is the traditional meditation pose.  When the feet are under the knees they push the knees up above the hips.  When the feet are above the knees they push the knees down below the hips.  However, full lotus takes a certain flexibility that most people don’t have when they start meditation.  Half lotus is with one foot on top of the opposite knee and the other foot in front of the other knee – it’s a good way to work your way into full lotus.  You can also do a position with one foot tucked in close to the groin and the other laid in front of that leg, though sometimes this still lets the knees float up a little.

    Whatever position you choose, you might want to sit on something.  By having your bottom raised, it’s easy to have your hips higher than your knees in any position.  A stiff pillow or even a small step stool can sometimes work.  If it’s important to you to learn to meditate sitting when there is NOTHING available to help, then you need to start working towards full lotus.  But since you can almost always find something to sit on, it’s OK to get used to sitting on something to raise your hips.

    Let me know how this works for you.

    #162411
    Ying
    Participant

    Thank you for the insight Zen-ryo :) I will do my best to first sit in half lotus while sitting on something to support my lower back and to allow my knees to be lower than my hip, so as not to strain my back.

    I will let you all know how it goes in the next week or so :) Responsibilities are demanding so I dont get all the time in the world to be on here. 

    #162412
    Jax
    Keymaster

    You can always lie down. There’s no requirement to sit. Just make sure to have good posture while lying down as well. 

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