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July 21, 2007 at 3:37 pm #138573Jedi_PhoenixModerator
So I have been reading up over at the Library or Jedi Online(Xhaiden’s site) and I thought there were some pretty interesting lectures that definitly got my brain revving.
One of the topics was called Training to Become a Jedi by Doragon Reklaw. And in the lecture he sort of breaks down the ideals of the Jedi into four…”pillars”.
4) Jedi Sorcerer
Each one sort of balances with the others. If you get a chance, head over there and download this article for an interesting read. I think one of the things that struck me was that I always thought of Jedi as being the guys who ran around in robes, defending others. Then I found the online community and realized that we might not have robes, but that we still are Jedi. I sort of wandered then how to exactly define a Jedi.
While this might not be THE definition, it gives a look into some of the things you can do to really contemplate living as a Jedi.
:yodaAugust 26, 2007 at 12:13 am #145789AslynParticipant
Actually, that always smacked of the old notion of Jedi Vocations – essentially, a way of expressing your own particular preferences with regards to Jedi practice once you had begun your training, or perhaps even completed your initial training and become a full practitioner. Inevitably, I think it would be premature for us all to start talking about vocations when it seems the community as a whole has quite enough problems trying to find a satisfactory general definition for Jedi as a whole, much to my amusement and occasional exasperation.
I suppose, realistically, you could consider those vocations to be, much as Doragon seems to be trying to point out, to be the primary aspects of what it is to be a Jedi: the ability to protect and defend, the willingness to seek knowledge and apply it, and the openess of one in-touch with their own spirituality and possessing a decent working knowledge of the self. I can’t begin to work out what he means by Jedi Sorcerer, but I can only assume he was either having a fanciful moment, or simply indicating those that spend their time combining Wiccan or Shamanism with Jedi practices, or perhaps simply focusing on energy work.
Regardless, it would seem that each in itself represents an aspect of the Jedi teachings (although not all of them are appropriately represented). In this, one would perhaps suggest that a Jedi is a combination of all those aspects, utilising specific intent, mandates and ethical codes that define their actions. Thus, each Jedi Realist must study the concepts, but not necessarily focus on all of them (or indeed, any of them, if you prefer to remain a generalist).
But if you’re looking for a definition of Jedi, I would not consider that a particularly good place to start. It is, so to speak, jumping the gun.August 26, 2007 at 4:06 am #145800Kol DrakeModerator
It sort of smacks of ‘gamer’ transliteration to have ‘sorcerer’ tossed in there.
If it were the first three — I could see them as the ‘three legs’ of a Jedi’s development — Warrior, Scholar, Monk — being training of — body, mind, spirit.
Most master martial artists, meditators, and others can tell you.. the ‘magic’ comes with practice and advancement… even to increased empathy, some minor (and not so minor) telepathy and other cool stuff… (( which is really always a part of ‘who we are’… but usually ignored )).
Do not need the fourth leg…. the three do the job.August 27, 2007 at 10:35 pm #145837inariParticipant
We avoid the use of the word ‘monk’ due to its masculine and religious overtones. Rather, we generally use the term ‘mystic’.
Just being all annoyingly PC and allAugust 28, 2007 at 1:03 am #145841Kol DrakeModeratorQuote:We avoid the use of the word ‘monk’ due to its masculine and religious overtones. Rather, we generally use the term ‘mystic’.
Just being all annoyingly PC and all
I can ‘see’ that… Monk normally makes the old mind zoom to those clerical sorts whacking their heads with stone tablets as they walk and chant ala’ Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Or some dude in ragged brown togs with the top of his head shaved bald.
Mystic just sounds cooler!!!September 15, 2007 at 4:19 am #146254Reverend SemadeniParticipantQuote:We avoid the use of the word ‘monk’ due to its masculine and religious overtones. Rather, we generally use the term ‘mystic’.
Just being all annoyingly PC and all
But there really is nothing mystical or magical about spirituality once you get comfortable with it. To me the term Mystic brings about images of mystery and illusion which are two things that spirituality should have nothing to do with since its only mysterious to those who don’t care to explore it. I was going to suggest “cleric” but then we’d all get mistaken for Muslim extremists. Its hard to find a good word for one who is spiritually awake. Good luck coming up with a good name for the monk but I agree with keeping it to the three if we have to divide into some branches. I’ll stick with mind body and spirit being thirds of the whole and refuse to specialize, even if it keeps me from ever becoming a master of any one branch.
:rebel RevOctober 8, 2007 at 12:23 pm #146504seeker125Participant
Yes, the term ‘Sorcerer’ makes me uneasy. I would prefer another word such as ‘awakened’ but I’m still looking for a better word than that. Any other suggestions? :yodaOctober 11, 2007 at 5:27 am #146567SpenserfParticipant
*sigh* doragon doragon doragonOctober 11, 2007 at 11:29 am #146568seeker125Participant
After some thought, I think Adept would be a better word to use than Sorcerer. Just my opion. :med2October 11, 2007 at 12:47 pm #146569AslynParticipant
We’ll never use those categories anyway, so I can’t see that it matters.
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