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June 11, 2009 at 1:57 pm #139453AngelusModerator
So a couple of days ago I was presented with a question I didn’t quite know how to answer. I am hoping people here might know of instances in the EU where a Jedi mentor “knighted” several of his/her students at the SAME time.
I know that it has generally been accepted that it would be one Teacher and Apprentice at a time. However, I also know that at other points in the EU a Teacher had several Apprentices. What I don’t know is if those students became Knights at the same time.
Any insight would be appreciated. Also, if you want to give your own thoughts and opinions on the matter, that would be great as well.June 11, 2009 at 2:38 pm #151492Jedi_PhoenixModerator
Hm if I remember right that is why Darth Bane came up with the One Master One Apprentice, no more no less rule. One to have the knowledge the other to feed off of it.
It was because before that era, both sith and Jedi alike had more than one apprentice and that led to competitions and jealousy (the opposite of Jedi teachings). The sith exploited it because they believed that made their Sith Knights stronger (by feeding the dark side) and used it against the Jedi (by watching their enemies destroy themselves from the inside out)
In the realistic world though, I would have to say we should keep to that same rule, at least in the sense of having one person knighted at a time. Becoming Jedi Knight (though I am far from one myself) should be a momentous occasion and you run the risk of both trying to please the Master over the other. Granted, in Jedi training this should be dissolved and replaced by gratitude and humility, but we aren’t perfect, even as Jedi and those are the human traits that tend to seep out.
Just my two cents in addition to what I’ve already said earlierJune 11, 2009 at 4:00 pm #151494AslynParticipant
Bane came up with that principle for the Sith, but for the Jedi it was more of a gradual development – more than likely brought on by the fact that there wasn’t a need to train so many students at once with the Great Sith War having ended
That noted, to my knowledge, there’s no EU example of multiple students being Knighted at the same time that have trained under the same Master. At least, that’s in the traditional sense. That said, there were quite a few Jedi ‘knighted’ (way too young, in my opinion) at the same time: Jacen and Jaina Solo, Tahiri Veila, Lowbacca, Tesar Sebatyne, Tenel Ka, Alema Ra, Tekli and Zekk were all knighted together (in a ceremony, believe it or not) in the book Destiny’s Way by Walter Jon Williams. Technically several of them trained under Luke Skywalker at the Jedi Praxeum, but not entirely in the formal Master/Apprentice manner of the Old Republic.
Just so happens that I read a lotJune 16, 2009 at 1:41 am #151519Brandel ValicoParticipant
Other then the above mentioned by Alex. The only other time I can think of is the Qel-Droma brothers and the student they trained with. So it may happen but it’s a rare thing.June 16, 2009 at 5:06 pm #151523StreenParticipant
Actually, I remember 2 very specific instances where several Jedi were Knighted at the same time. One, I believe, was in the Jedi Academy trilogy (I may be wrong about that, but it was in around the time of when Tionne and Streen were training there). Luke took the students on a walk into the jungles of Yavin 4, and at some point said some words and knighted them all, whoever they were.
The second instance was in the NJO series. Jacen, Jaina, Zekk, etc., were all knighted in a ceremony. For those who’ve read those books, it’s the part where Luke makes the prophetic statement that Jaina is the “Sword of the Jedi”.June 16, 2009 at 5:14 pm #151524JaxKeymaster
But in those cases Luke was not the mentor of them all, at least not in the NJO timeline. I don’t recall the details of the first instance, but that was also a unique instance where he was the only master around so training itself was different.
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