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As Jedi, we should make certain we always pass through these three gates with everything we say AND every action we consider taking.
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Jax replied the topic: Re:Three Gates

I have been working on this over the years. I keep more to myself now because I find it isn't necessary, kind, or productive. Not always easy but worth the effort.


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I wonder if we could send this one to both political candidates? :stars
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Jax replied the topic: Re:Three Gates

That would be nice. Perhaps just to the whole world? lol
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Connor replied the topic: Re:Three Gates

I am going to post it to Jedi Voices! It will show up on the FB page for IJRS.

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J. K. Barger replied the topic: Three Gates

Awesome! Didn't Socrates (or one of those old dudes???) say something similar?

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Dustin replied the topic: Three Gates

You mean this one?

One day an acquaintance ran up to him excitedly and said, "Socrates, do you know what I just heard about Diogenes?"
"Wait a moment," Socrates replied, "Before you tell me I'd like you to pass a little test. It's called the Triple Filter Test."
"Triple filter test?" asked the acquaintance.
"That's right," Socrates continued, "Before you talk to me about Diogenes let's take a moment to filter what you're going to say.

The first filter is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me is true?"
"No," the man said, "Actually I just heard about it."
"All right," said Socrates, "So you don't really know if it's true or not. Now let's try the second filter, the filter of Goodness. Is what you are about to tell me about Diogenes something good?"
"No, on the contrary..."
"So," Socrates continued, "You want to tell me something about Diogenes that may be bad, even though you're not certain it's true?"
The man shrugged, a little embarrassed. Socrates continued, "You may still pass the test though, because there is a third filter, the filter of usefulness. Is what you want to tell me about Diogenes going to be useful to me?"
"No, not really."
The man was and ashamed. This is an example of why Socrates was a great philosopher and held in such high esteem.
It also explains why Socrates never found out that Diogenes was having an affair with his wife.

Ironically Socrates never wrote anything down and I wasn't able to pin the tale to Plato, whose writing is primarily how we know of Socrates. I don't think this tale is true, but at least it's good and useful. :lol:

This is a more convincing explanaiton of its origin I think . Then hopping over to Wikipedia I learned that the Pali Cannon (which contains the mentioned Suttas) was written from oral tradition in ~29bce. The oral tradition is reportedly passed down from the 5th century bce (400s bce) which incidentally lines up with Socrate's life.

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It is interesting how many of the 'things we really should know/follow' are of hazy origins... used so often and by so many cultures that the roots become 'lost in antiquity'. It also says something that it survives THROUGH the many cultures, etc.
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