Why people Leave the community

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Hey guys, I wrote an article about the purpose of community, and why people leave the Jedi community, and I'd love your thoughts on it!

californiajedi.org/ahsokas-choice-why-people-leave-the-jedi-community/

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Connor replied the topic: Why people Leave the community

I totally agree with this and I love this post.

The Jedi path is definitely a solitary one. And, this is the main issue with the Community. People can be Jedi without a Community. So, in order for a Community to exist, it HAS to be more effective than doing the Jedi thing on one's own.

A Community must provide energy to its Jedi.
A Community must provide possibility for its Jedi.
A Community must provide support for its Jedi.

If the Community only takes, then it will be like entropy. Eventually, the Community will dissolve and destroy those who gave to it.
We cannot allow the Jedi Community to behave like a black hole, sucking in all of our energy, weighing us down.

The energy must go out and be light!

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Chris-Tien Jinn replied the topic: Why people Leave the community

I saw this on the Facebook page and thought I'd take a look.

I think the articles are right on point and that the workshop format you linked (Roots of the Tree ....) would be really helpful as a format for discussion.

21 years ago, I got tired of doing my own training in a solo format, and I wanted to connect with other people on similar paths in order to share ideas and discuss the intersection of Star Wars, the hero's journey archetype, philosophy, and martial arts. So, I typed "Jedi Academy" into a browser search ... and found the Jedi Academy run by Baal Legato and crew.

For a while, it was wonderful to be able to discuss, even online, some of these ideas and share resources and training ideas. There were a couple of people locally who were also Star Wars fans who "wanted to be Jedi" but wouldn't actually put in any effort to train and grow as people; so the online community was pretty much my only way of connecting with other Jedi around the world.

I left the community because a handful of people decided that they knew the only way to train as Jedi and became a self-appointed standards committee that wouldn't respectfully try to find common ground. I was ironically spending way too much time online trying to defend a training path that I didn't have time to actually follow it offline in the "real world."

So - I made the choice to go back to following my path, solo, since the community had become an impediment rather than an aid.

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Jax replied the topic: Re:Why people Leave the community

That's an incredibly important point. The community needs to be a contribution not a detraction. I recently spent a lot of time on my own training and little with the online community.I simply did not have the energy to focus on everything all at the same time. My hope is we can simplify and return to basics on what the community should provide and how to maintain it contributing community rather than allowing it to become a distraction.


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Connor replied the topic: Why people Leave the community

We have all been in that situation, I think. If you've been in the community longer than a few years, you begin to see the egos clouding the judgment of the community.

Hopefully, we are moving in the right direction! I'd love to see seasoned, experienced Jedi come back to participate because our community has gotten better.

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Chris-Tien Jinn replied the topic: Why people Leave the community

I was just in a book group discussion on the topic of humility, and a few, further thoughts came to me.

The majority of the learners in the Blue Group left the [online] Jedi Community because they felt called to serve in various ways in their local, offline worlds. They had learned and grown and developed skills and were ready use them actively. In some cases, their gift and calling was to continue to write and teach, but for many of them, living as knights meant moving offline and avoiding the seduction of online busy-ness. I do hope that, as the next Star Wars trilogy airs that some of them will come back and share what they have done and learned through that.

For me, part of the reason for leaving was because the community - at the time - was a distraction for me, my growth, and my service. But also, I didn't seem to be able to contribute to the community in a useful way.

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Jax replied the topic: Why people Leave the community

Blue Group was also unique among training situations, with a deeper level of commitment. Part of that credit goes to you. I do hope some people come back to the fold and we can create a new community here, of old and new, all newly inspired. :-)
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sarah kehoe replied the topic: Why people Leave the community

so as someone who has been in and out of the online community. Or should i say, out of the online community way, way more than i would like to be, I do know some of the struggles of trying to train online. among those are time and outside life its true, but its also a lot about commitment. It is harder for many people to feel as committed to names on a screen as they do to people that they see every day, but even if these people slip out if they come back again and again it must prove something. to me it proves that these selfsame people are more than caught in a fast obsession, they must care at least somewhat.

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