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Who the Meek Are Not
by Mary Karr

Not the bristle-bearded Igors bent
under burlap sacks, not peasants knee-deep
in the rice paddy muck,
nor the serfs whose quarter-moon sickles
make the wheat fall in waves
they don't get to eat. My friend the Franciscan
nun says we misread
that word meek in the Bible verse that blesses them.
To understand the meek
(she says) picture a great stallion at full gallop
in a meadow, who—
at his master's voice—seizes up to a stunned
but instant halt.
So with the strain of holding that great power
in check, the muscles
along the arched neck keep eddying,
and only the velvet ears
prick forward, awaiting the next order.
"Who the Meek Are Not" by Mary Karr, from Sinners Welcome. © Harper Collins, 2006.



Does the change your perspective on meekness? How can you apply this to being a Jedi?


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INteresting post, I thought I saw this on FB.

It definitely adds an interesting perspective on meekness,but I'm not sure it changes it. Even growing up in a Catholic Church, we often heard that meek people were not 'door mats'; that to be humble did not mean you were walked all over it. What it meant was that you had a reverent respect for God. We can be proud of who we are, but at the end of the day, we are not immortal nor infinite (Catholic-sense).

Today though I see this in the terms of being a Jedi and using the Force. We can't flaunt who we are, nor feel superior than any one person. We have to respect our talents and gifts that we receive. This, to me, also means still having that respect for the Force. I see it as building a relationship rather than just a tool or means to and end.
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Jedi Phoenix wrote: INteresting post, I thought I saw this on FB.

It definitely adds an interesting perspective on meekness,but I'm not sure it changes it. Even growing up in a Catholic Church, we often heard that meek people were not 'door mats'; that to be humble did not mean you were walked all over it. What it meant was that you had a reverent respect for God. We can be proud of who we are, but at the end of the day, we are not immortal nor infinite (Catholic-sense).

Today though I see this in the terms of being a Jedi and using the Force. We can't flaunt who we are, nor feel superior than any one person. We have to respect our talents and gifts that we receive. This, to me, also means still having that respect for the Force. I see it as building a relationship rather than just a tool or means to and end.


I really like the way you phrase your idea of meekness and humility. It really resonates with me.

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I always saw the meaning if meek to be the same as that as being humble. You have abilities and strengths, but you treat them with respect. You use them when needed to help others and the greater good, but you don't go around flaunting or abusing it. A Jedi was meek while a Sith was not. It's not about power or control, about being a format, but about what you do with the skills you are given, cause even just having them, but not using them is a waste.

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zen-ryo senshi replied the topic: Re:Who the meek are not

I don't really understand that poem, but I will happily share my understanding of the Greek word "praus" which is translated as "meek" in the New Testament. Praus was originally a term used for the best horses - strong and capable, but cooperative and able to work well with their rider. When push came to shove, they would stand their ground and continue to do their job without hesitation. So applying it to humans it seems to refer to the strong but silent types. The people who go about their own business, getting things done, but not seeking recognition or attention. They are not trying to be leaders and they are not simply following, they are doing what they know is right. Jesus also describes himself as meek, so anyone considering his words should not define meek in a way that would not also apply to the man that overturned the tables in the temple.

If I speak from a good motivation out of sincerity, respect, and love for others, my actions are good, virtuous. If I act from a motivation of pride, hatred, criticism, and so forth, then my verbal and physical actions become nonvirtuous.

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Jax replied the topic: Re:Who the meek are not

The meaning of words change over time. So the current cultural meaning is often different from the original meanings. Thank you for the origins!


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Definitely. I've only ever seen the word meek used in biblical references and I think people define it differently now than how the original Greek word was used. But since I didn't understand the poem, I have to admit that I'm not sure if my post was appropriate or out of left field.

If I speak from a good motivation out of sincerity, respect, and love for others, my actions are good, virtuous. If I act from a motivation of pride, hatred, criticism, and so forth, then my verbal and physical actions become nonvirtuous.

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As a young boy I was paid a great compliment by being told I was meek. I misunderstood the word and he explained it in a similar fashion. Passion or power held in check by self-control. Unfortunately I've lost some of that self-control over the years which is ironic considering I was in 7th grade when he told me I was meek. As I matured I actually lost control. I was, I must admit, a fairly mature child though.

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They are called hormones, the enemy of self control. ;-)



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