this was a double post but i can use it to add to the previous

from what i can tell the apprenticeship relationship involves personal accountabilty

i dont know how far this goes but my perspective is that it should be par for the course for jedi to have some degree of "real world" accomplishment. just looking at this forum i see a lot of that- another reason i do the curriculum here.

with emphasis on character and the expectation of personal control of ones life at a certain point in the training, i think its very reasonable to expect the jedi movement to be an established and respected institution - if that is the desire - within a relatively short time.